So three different stages
of transcendentalists. One is the dhira, one is the
sannyasi, and the other is the narottama, or the devotee
of the Lord. It says in the purport that the dhira
stage is a preparation for sannyasa. In this case,
Dhrtarastra, being a ksatriya, was expected to take
vanaprastha, the next stage. The ksatriyas have three
asramas: brahmacari, grhastha, and vanaprastha, so
it was expected he would leave home but perhaps. .
. of course this has been discussed quite a bit, his
family attachment was very strong. Also he was blind
so that might have been another consideration. But
Vidura was not interested in any excuses. As a preacher.
. . Vidura is the ideal preacher, because he was so
kind that he gave his full attention to Dhrtarastra
even though Dhrtarastra was not the best candidate,
still the preacher is so expert that he is interested
in helping the candidate to make advancement in some
way or other. Of course, the best thing, a preacher
always desires that a candidate should be encouraged
to take to complete surrender. Just like Krsna in
Bhagavad Gita is preaching, "The best thing is
to have love for Me, but if you cannot have love for
Me then practice the principles of bhakti yoga, if
you cannot do that then work for Me, give up some
of the results. . . ." In this way He gives a
list of lower types of activities, beginning with
the highest. Because everyone should be given the
opportunity to take to pure devotional service, because
after all this is the final instruction of Lord Krsna:
sarva-dharman
parityajya mam ekam saranam vraja
aham tvam sarva-papebhyo moksayisyami ma sucah
He's
saying "I will free you from all sinful reactions,
don't fear, don't worry, don't hesitate." In
many ways it's the most important instruction in Bhagavad-gita.
I know when I read that it had quite a profound effect
because now the conclusion is whatever other dharmas,
actually it's not real dharma. There are different
types of dharmas. There is sva-dharma according to
the body, like the varnasrama system is dealing with
the sva-dharma of the body. And those instructions
are valid and important up to a point. Up to the point
where one is given the opportunity and inspiration
to surrender to Krsna and engage in sanatana-dharma,
or one's eternal occupation. The sva-dharma according
to varnasrama is temporary, because as Lord Caitanya
Mahaprabhu has explained:
naham
vipro na ca nara-patir napi vaisyo na sudro
naham varni na ca grha-patir no vana-stho yatir va
kintu prodyan nikhila-paramananda-purnamrtabdher
gopi-bhartuh pada-kamalayor dasa-dasanudasah
"I'm
not a brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, sudra, brahmacari,
grhastha, vanaprastha or sannyasi. I'm not this body
but I'm the eternal servant of the servant of the
servant of Krsna, maintainer of the gopis."
Everyone's
identity is the same--we're all servants of the servants
of Krsna--but having forgotten, we're identifying
with this body. The real dharma, the sanatana-dharma,
the eternal relationship of the living entity or the
eternal occupation is to serve Krsna, serve the devotees
of Krsna. Not to be engaged in these mundane activities.
However,
not everyone is ready for that. But if someone is
ready, as we see in the activities of Srila Prabhupada,
he didn't try to introduce the gradual method of varnasrama
first. We can just imagine, I was speaking with my
Godbrother Madhudvisa Prabhu the other day, about
Srila Prabhupada's visit for a few hours to the Morning
Star Ranch. We can just imagine if Prabhupada had
encouraged them to take up the gradual process of
varnasrama. . . maybe not everyone's aware of the
activities of the Morning Star Ranch; it was kind
of a hippie commune, and everyone was living a very
unregulated life. Prabhupada taught the chanting of
Hare Krsna, the holy names of the Lord:
hare
krsna hare krsna
krsna krsna hare hare
hare rama hare rama
rama rama hare hare
This
is exactly in line with the teachings of Srila Rupa
Goswami:
yena
tena prakarena manah krsne nivesayet sarve vidhi-nisedhah
syur etayor eva kinkarah
In
the beginning let them become attached to Krsna. Later
on all the rules and regulations can gradually be
introduced. There are so many rules and regulations
but what is the use of introducing them if one has
no attachment for Krsna? So first let them be attracted
to Krsna, and for that the Hare Krsna maha-mantra
is very important.
kali-kale
nama-rupe krsna-avatara
In
this age the Lord has incarnated in His holy name.
This is especially for this age:
harer
nama harer nama harer namaiva kevalam
kalau nasty eva nasty eva nasty eva gatir anyatha
For
the age of Kali the only method of self-realization
that will be effective is the chanting of the holy
names. There's no other way, not by jnana, not by
karma, no by yoga, only by bhakti, chanting the holy
name of the Lord in devotional service. That will
be effective.
The
result was that many of those young people began chanting
Hare Krsna and within a very short time they came
to the platform of devotional service. Devotional
service means that one is situated in the transcendental
position, above even the varnasrama system. Just see
the effect. By the transcendental potency of Srila
Prabhupada and the assistance of his disciples and
followers, the Krsna consciousness movement is spreading
all over the world. This is the effect of chanting
Hare Krsna. All the unwanted things. . .
Ceto-darpana-marjanam
bhava-maha-davagni-nirvapanam
All
the unwanted things are destroyed or cleared out of
the heart. This is the beauty of pure devotional service.
However, sometimes not everyone is able to take to
this immediate process, or the very quick process
of devotional service, chanting the holy names. So
a preacher will encourage them to make advancement
as far as possible. That is his discrimination, his
ability. Krsna will give him the intelligence how
to encourage everyone to take up the path. In the
case of Dhrtarastra he was not able to take up pure
devotional service but he was able to take up renunciation,
take up vanaprastha, he was able to leave the palace,
as we will find out shortly.
The
song that Srila Prabhupada mentions here by Srila
Narottama Das Thakur, which Prabhupada also commented
was his favourite song:
hari hari viphale janama gonainu
manusya-janama paiya, radha-krsna na bhajiya,
janiya suniya visa khainu
"My
Lord, I have simply wasted my life. Having attained
the human body I have neglected to worship Your Lordship
and therefore I have willingly drunk poison."
This is the woeful song of everyone in this material
world, or at least those who are intelligent. The
unintelligent they never think that they have wasted
their time in the material world drinking poison.
They think that:
punah
punas carvita-carvananam
They
imagine that they are getting more and more happiness.
They keep thinking, even on the deathbed. . . one
of my relatives was on the deathbed and another one
of my relatives came to this person and said, "Don't
you think now in your life it would be good to turn
towards God,?" And the dying relative said, "No,
I don't believe in that, I believe in science so I'm
giving all my money to help overcome cancer, the cancer
institute. I only believe in scientific things."
We
can see science didn't save this person. Science doesn't
save anyone. We can give millions and billions of
dollars to the research foundations and it won't help
at all, not even one iota. But if someone can be engaged
in chanting the holy names of the Lord, that is real
benefit. We should never try to compare mundane altruistic
activities--feeding the poor, opening hospitals, planting
trees in Alaska, saving the whale, or whatever--this
is not to be compared to giving people Krsna consciousness
and teaching people to take up devotional service.
This
is what we have been taught by Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu.
Generally in preaching He would teach the general
mass of people to chant Hare Krsna. He did not discuss
the intimate pastimes of Radha Krsna in Vraja, nor
did He even discuss such topics with the great philosophers
such as Prakasananda Sarasvati and Sarvabhauma Bhattacarya.
He discussed with them Vedanta philosophy. But he
only discussed with the very few intimate, advanced
devotees. He is the acarya, the leader of the sankirtana
movement, therefore we also follow that. Sometimes
it is recommended that we should give classes in raganuga
bhakti to beginners or intermediates, but this is
not recommended by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, by Srila
Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur, or by His Divine
Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada.
We
can see here also the expertise of Vidura. Here Dhrtarastra
was certainly nearing death and Vidura might have
considered it prudent to instruct him about the most
intimate pastimes of Krsna. He did not do so, but
rather he tried to convince him through basically
logic, argument, common sense, that he should give
up. . . he was even insulting him to try to get him
to give up the attachment. So giving up the attachment
may also be a method of preaching sometimes.
It
is said that the coming of old age is the warning
that death is coming soon. "Pancasordhvam vanam
vrajet', when one reaches the age of fifty, this is
the hint, the indication, that old age is coming,
now it's time to go to the forest, to give up the
comfortable family life and again go back to performing
the austerities that one learned in the brahmacari
asrama. Because after all what is the purpose of human
life? The purpose of human life, "prema pumartho
mahan", is to develop love for Krsna, to go back
to home back to Godhead, to prepare oneself. That
means one has to prepare one's consciousness and leave
behind the attachments to the material world especially
family, society, friendship, home. These things are
very difficult to give up but one has to practice
and the varnarasrama system is so nicely designed
by Krsna to authorise everyone to make progress in
detachment.
An
important point here is in the verse is "virakta
mukta-bandhanah". That the dhira is one who is
free from all obligations. Actually it's true, he
is free from obligations. The varnasrama system gives
him authorization to leave home. It gives him the
authorization. Why? Because the whole Vedic system
is meant to lead one out of the material world and
back to the spiritual world. Not only the Vedic system
authorizes, but stipulates and encourages, yes, everyone
should keep moving forward on the path of renunciation:
vairagya-vidya-nija-bhakti-yoga
This
is the instruction of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu. This
is knowledge. Renunciation without knowledge is not
very solid. And renunciation without devotional service
is also not solidified. Prabhupada refers to that
in the purport, that the dhiras may reach a stage
of renunciation but it's not solidified because they
haven't taken shelter of the lotus feet of Krsna:
ye
'nye 'ravindaksa vimukta-maninas
tvayy asta-bhavad avisuddha-buddhayah
aruhya krcchrena param padam tatah
patanty adho 'nadrta-yusmad-anghrayah
The
impersonalists' position, although it's the beginning
of transcendental life, it's not secure. Because they
haven't taken shelter of Krsna they are prone again
to fall back down into the material plane. They may
have taken sannyasa and still they come back and open
hospitals and arrange for feeding the poor. This means
they are coming back to the mundane plane. They haven't
gotten the real taste of real mukti:
Muktir
hitvanyatha-rupam svarupena vyavasthitih
Real
liberation means that one is situated in his eternal
constitutional form as a servant of Krsna in different
rasas.
So
we can learn from Vidura about preaching and we can
also learn that we should take full advantage of the
pure devotees. We can get many things, as Dhrtarastra
is not taking the highest thing. There is the story,
some of you know the story. There was a worshipper
of Lord Siva. He wanted some very valuable thing,
he wanted to become very wealthy, so Lord Siva sent
him to Sanatana Goswami in Vrndavana. He said "Go
there, he has some very valuable touchstone."
So the worshipper went to Sanatana Goswami and he
begged for the touchstone. The touchstone turns things
into gold when you touch it. This worshipper he asked
Sanatana "Can you please give me the touchstone."
He said "Yes, it's over there in the rubbish,
you can take it."
So
the worshipper was very happy, he took it and made
so much gold and he was very happy. But his friends
told him that "If Sanatana Goswami was keeping
this in the rubbish he must have something more valuable.
So you should go back and get that." So he went
back and he said "My dear Sanatana Goswami, I
think you have something more valuable because you
were keeping this touchstone in the rubbish. Can you
give me the more valuable thing?" And Sanatana
Goswami said "First throw away the touchstone."
That
virakta, renunciation. There has to be some indication
that one is willing to pay some price. Because we
cannot have Krsna and mundane material attachments
at the same time. It is an inverse relationship. If
we want Krsna then we have go give up the maya. And
if we want maya then we have to give up the Krsna.
So
Sanatana said give it up, and he gave it up and then
he taught him the Hare Krsna maha-mantra. This is
the most valuable thing. We can get so many things
from the devotees. We can get liberation. We can get
even mundane wealth from a sadhu, from a saintly person
and even from Krsna. It is said that if Krsna likes
somebody He gives him a lot of material wealth, but
if He loves them He takes everything away:
yasyaham
anugrhnami harisye tad-dhanam sanaih
That
is His special favour. We should not ask Krsna for
material things. Generally people do not like to worship
Krsna so much, especially here. They prefer worshipping
Devi, Durga. Because they can ask for different things.
Give me nice wife, dehi, give me wealth, give me nice
beautiful wife. They are asking so many things. That's
their idea of religion. Of course we can also get
these things from Krsna, and it is recommended from
Srimad Bhagavatam that if we do have material desires,
better than going to the demigods or demigoddesses,
to approach Krsna for those things. But Krsna is so
expert that in the course of fulfilling our material
desires, He will also attract our minds from those
material things and we will then become captivated
by the beauty of Krsna. Just like Dhruva Maharaja.
He approached Vidura for a big kingdom, he wanted
wealth. But when he actually saw the Lord who appeared
before him as Prsnigarbha, Visnu form, then he said:
kacam
vicinvann api divya-ratnam
svamin krtartho'smi varam na yace
"I
was chasing for bits of broken glass, but now I have
achieved the most beautiful jewel. I don't care for
any kingdom anymore. What do I need a kingdom for?"
Prahlada
Maharaja also said that when Lord Nrsimhadeva offered
him any benediction and Prahlada Maharaja said, "What
is the use of asking for any mundane thing? I am not
a vanika, a mercantile man. I've seen my father who
was so powerful, in a moment everything was taken
away from him. I only want pure devotional service."
This
should be our constant determination; that I want
pure devotional service, that's all. I don't want
anything else. The other things will come anyway:
muktih
svayam mukulitanjali sevate 'sman
dharmartha-kama-gatayah samaya-pratiksah
The
devotee prays that my dear Lord, who is it, Bilvamangala
Thakura, divya-kisora murti, because I am engaged
in devotional service, mukti, liberation personified
is standing with her hands folded waiting to serve
me. And her assistants are dharma, religiosity; artha,
economic development; and kama, sense gratification;
they're also there with their hands folded also willing
to serving me. So what is the need for making any
separate attempt for these things? Simply a waste
of time. Simply we should engage in pure devotional
service under the orders of the bona fide, taking
the order of the spiritual master as one's life and
soul, then everything else will be provided by Krsna:
ananyas
cintayanto mam ye janah paryupasate
tesam nityabhiyuktanam yoga-ksemam vahamy aham
Krsna
says "I will carry what they lack and preserve
what they have for those devotees who are fully engaged
in my pure devotional service meditating on my transcendental
form."
Nothing
else is required. Sometimes people think we have to
work very hard to earn a livelihood, so many things.
It's not required. Simply engage in Krsna's service
and He will take care, He will maintain. Does He not
feed the elephants? They're eating forty kilos food
a day, they're also being provided. He's providing
all living entities. We do not have to worry. We are
the sons of a very rich person. Just as a rich man's
son doesn't have to go to work very hard in a factory.
It's very unusual to see such a thing, the son of
a very wealthy man, he doesn't work so hard because
he has inherited. "Sadaya-bhak". Those who
engage fully in devotional service inherit everything
they need for living happily in this life, getting
a nice comfortable material situation. And upon giving
up this body:
tyaktva
deham punar janma naiti mam eti so 'rjuna
They
don't have to take birth again in this material world.
That is the success of the human form of life. That
should be our desire. And if it's not our desire right
now, if we still have some desire for material things,
we should pray to the Lord and devotees to kindly
help me develop the desire to give these things up.
Even if I don't have a pure desire for love of Krsna,
I should desire to desire that, or desire to desire
to desire that. In this way our life will be successful
and we will be able to give up the material attachments
at the time of death.
That's
a big test. It is said that all of our bhajan, all
of our learning, all of our worship, our piety, everything
is tested at the moment of death, "ante narayana-smrtih."
It's like sometimes we are driving in cars on the
freeway and some danger comes. You may have had that
experience. Of course driving here you don't need
freeways to have danger on the roads. Here there's
danger at every moment. So what do we do when it looks
like the bus is coming right in our lane and it looks
our driver doesn't quite have it right? It looks like
he is not going to give. He doesn't want to go over,
he's holding his ground expecting the bus to go out.
And the bus is going very fast and is probably very
heavy with hundreds of people inside and weighs more
than my little taxi. And if we get smashed certainly
I'll be dead. So what to do? You go "Oh ah!"
No, we should chant!
hare
krsna hare krsna
krsna krsna hare hare
hare rama hare rama
rama rama hare hare
Because
it may be the last time. (laughter) We don't
want to just say "Oh!" or make some sound
or silence. This may be the last time! So I should
chant Hare Krsna and prepare to go back to home, back
to Godhead. We should always be practicing. "Padam
padam yad vipadam," there's danger at every step
in this material world. We don't know when our last
moment will be. So we should practice, "kirtaniyah
sada harih," always chanting, always remembering
Krsna. Then, when the time of death does come, we
will be practiced, we'll be ready to call out the
name of Krsna as so many of our Godbrothers and Godsisters
and devotees are proving in ISKCON. So that is what
ISKCON is preparing us for. . . .
Bhagavatam
says "One should be bold enough not to become
afraid at the time of death and should cut off all
attachments to body, family and everything else."
We should be bold enough to cut off these attachments.
But it takes practice. Dhrtarastra didn't practice.
Therefore he couldn't do it. He didn't chant the holy
names of the Lord, he wasn't practicing. Therefore,
although he got the association of Vidura, he wasn't
able to take full advantage. So we don't want to miss
this opportunity. We've got the opportunity to associate
with Srila Prabhupada, such an empowered pure devotee.
We don't want to just become a renunciant. We want
to become a loving devotee of the Lord and go back
home, back to Godhead.
So
thank you very much. If there are any questions? (applause)
Microphone for the questions?
Question:
(inaudible)
Answer:
How can we reconcile? So the question is "We
said if one takes up devotional service, he doesn't
need to worry about maintenance of the body or any
other material consideration. But Prabhu pointed out
that Prabhupada had his own business, Bhaktivinoda
Thakur was engaged in some occupation."
Yes,
but those were not outside of devotional service.
In other words, one can also use one's occupation
in devotional service. Just like Arjuna. Krsna told
Arjuna that you should fight and remember Me at the
same time. Fight for Me, on My behalf.
nimitta-matram
bhava savya-sacin
Just
become an instrument in My hands. But He engaged him
in the same occupation that he was trained for. There's
nothing wrong with occupation if it is used--what
is that verse in Srimad Bhagavatam--the occupations
should be used, "hari-tosanam", to please
Hari. All occupations should be used to please Hari.
So if your occupation can be used in favourably serving
the Lord then that's vey good. If it's not helping
you to serve the Lord, then what is the use of such
an occupation, it's simply so much useless labour,
so much wasting time, like beating the husks. If it's
not leading us to love of Krsna. . . we shouldn't
be attached to anything that's unfavourable for the
discharge of devotional service.
Any
other questions?
Question:
You were mentioning how Srila Prabhupada was an empowered
devotee of the Lord. And Vidura was a mahajana so
he could liberate Dhrtarastra. But for example I was
speaking with a devotee and he was telling me only
if you have a very advanced pure devotee of the Lord,
initiated by him, you cannot achieve the highest state
of pure devotional service. Like Srila Prabhupada,
or Bhaktivinoda Thakur. . . .
Answer:
Or Prabhupada's disciples also, or his followers.
If they're strictly following then the connection
is not broken. It's like this is the wire, if the
wire is carrying the current, as long as it's not
broken. . . the wire is insignificant. What does it
cost for some copper wire? It's worth almost nothing.
But when it's connected to the powerhouse that same
wire can carry such a huge current! So much power
can be carried in that little wire that's almost insignificant.
So every soul has the potential to be a pure devotee
of Krsna. If he follows the instructions of the pure
devotee then he also become empowered. Like the wire,
he is connected. If he is connected to his spiritual
master and he teaches the same thing then the connection
is still there. We can see the proof that so many
thousands of people are still joining the Krsna consciousness
movement. That means the connection is still there.
As long as we present it purely and we don't adulterate
it, then it will go on, the current will continue.
Any
other question. Yes?
Question:
Dear Maharaja, . . . ? about Tsunami. Remembering
of repeating holy name. Tell something more about
itm su-nami. . . ?
Answer:
Did anyone get that? Elaborate on the tsunami? What
does that have to do with the class? Let's talk about
this class. I mean today's class. The question should
be about today's class. If there's anything unclear
we can clarify it. I can talk afterwards about the
other. . . . Any other about today's?
All
right, thank you very much. Srimad Bhagavatam ki jai!