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FRIENDLY FIRE
By
HH DANAVIR GOSWAMI

(A sannyasi’s statements on the Internet provoke a response from HH Danavir Goswami)
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Danavir Goswami
HH Danavir Goswami

Sannyasi: “I am not different from Srila Swami Maharaja in any way. In the beginning he told you, A, B, C, D. A, apple; B, ball; C, cat; and D, dog. I am telling something more, by his desire. We should not remain in first grade for all time. If we are not gradually developing our study, then we are like foolish persons. We cannot remain in the same position, in the same stage, always. If Srila Swami Maharaja were here now, he would tell you all the same things that I am telling. Surely he would.”

Response: The sannyasi uses the term “Srila Swami Maharaja” to indicate His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Several assertions are made above which we shall address.

Assertion #1: Srila Prabhupada provided no more than beginning spiritual education for his students.

This statement is totally incorrect. Srila Prabhupada not only gave the A,B,C,D’s of spiritual instruction through Bhagavad-gita—but he also provided graduate and post graduate level education through Srimad Bhagavatam and Sri Caitanya Caritamrta. Bhagavatam begins where the Gita leaves off at the lotus feet of Sri Krishna and proceeds systematically upward to the Lord’s calves, knees, thighs, chest and finally arrives at the His smiling lotus face (the Tenth Canto). The Tenth Canto elaborately describes Krishna’s pastimes in Vraja dhama culminating in the rasa dance with His beloved gopis.

Sri Caitanya Caritamrta further elucidates the glories of the Lord’s intimate lilas of sakhya, vatsalya, and madhurya rasas found in Goloka-Gokula dhamas. The scripture further reveals the mystery of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu’s identity as Lord Krishna in the mood and complexion of Srimate Radharani. There seems to be no dearth of higher principles in the teachings of Srila Prabhupada. Aside from his classes and writings, His Divine Grace graphically taught by his own example how an uttama adhikari on the highest level of Krishna prema conducts himself and spreads the sankirtana movement.

Assertion #2: Those who do not follow the advice of the sannyasi are not developing spiritually and thus are like foolish persons.

We, members of ISKCON may well be foolish, but we are not in bad company. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu, demonstrating the role of an ideal disciple, accepted himself as a fool (murkha) by unquestionably accepting the orders of his gurudeva. Sri Isvara Puri is said to have told Sri Caitanya that He was unfit for studying Vedanta and should simply chant the holy names of Hari instead.

Srila Prabhupada cautioned his followers against seeking divergent instruction. Unfortunately, some devotees did not follow that important instruction and instead became confused and left their spiritual master’s society as dissidents. If ISKCON members adhere to the explicit instructions given by the founder-acarya, true gaudiya Vaisnavas will be satisfied.

Assertion #3: The sannyasi and Srila Prabhupada are non-different and if Srila Prabhupada were here now, he would tell the same things that the sannyasi is telling.

First the sannyasi said that he was telling something more [different] than what Srila Prabhupada told. Now in contradiction he says that he is non-different from Srila Prabhupada. To resolve the two seemingly opposite statements the sannyasi proposes that if Srila Prabhupada were present now he would say the same things that the sannyasi is saying.

The problem here is that the sannyasi says things which are quite different than what Srila Prabhupada actually said, wrote and did. This leaves us with the choice of putting our trust in a notion of what Srila Prabhupada might have said if he “were here now” or trusting in what Srila Prabhupada actually did instruct. This will become clearer below.

Sannyasi: “I want to clarify this for you. If you are doing arati of Krsna and Radha, what is the use of singing to Nrsmhadeva? You should chant the kirtana by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, by Dina Krsnadasa, and others. Srila Narottama has written, Jaya jaya radha-krsna jugala-milana, and we should chant that. Suppose your gurudeva wants you to give him some mahaprasadam preparation, and instead you pour cold water on his hand. What is this? It is nonsense.

Prabhupada gave some concession for the beginners. Now, if you are performing arcana and arati of Radha and Krsna, then you should sing the song of that very Radha-Krsna arati. If you are performing the arati of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, Jaya jaya gauracandra, at that time why should you chant to Nrsmhadeva?
… We give so much honor to Nrsimhadeva, but in the appropriate time and in accordance with His mood. If we are remembering Nrsimhadeva when we are doing arcana of Radha-Krsna, then Radha and Krsna will go away.”

Response: In all the ISKCON temples I have visited, prayers to Nrsimhadeva are sung after the arati to the main deities (Gaura Nitai or Radha Krishna) is completed. So there does not seem to be a difference of practice on this issue. The sannyasi is saying not to sing the Nrsimha prayers during the arati ceremony and devotees of ISKCON do not.

It seems the sannyasi does not approve of having a picture of Lord Nrsimhadeva on the altar. On this point we must defer to Srila Prabhupada’s superior judgement who wisely invoked the protection of the sankirtana movement by the presence of the half-man half-lion incarnation.

Sannyasi: “Even if you are chanting kirtana and performing arcana to Radha-Krsna, if you are keeping Nityananda Prabhu there, then, according to our Vedic culture, Radha-Krsna will not be there. They will run away from there.

“… Therefore, don't keep Radha-Krsna and Gaurcandra-Nityananda Prabhu in the same section of the altar. You can keep only Radha-Krsna and Mahaprabhu on one altar. Because Mahaprabhu is Radha-Krsna Himself, there is no harm in that. There is no rasabhasa. However, if you are keeping Radha-Krsna, Gaur-Nityananda, Nrsimha, Hanuman, Rama, Dvarakadhisa-Satyabhama, Lord Jagannatha-Baladeva-Subhadra, and the gopis on the same altar -- if you are making a mixture of them all -- then Radha and Krsna are really not there. They can never be there. You should realize this.

“In Indian culture, if the elder brother is present, the younger brother and his wife cannot play together. Never, never, and never. Baladeva Prabhu is like a father to Radhika. If He is present, Radha and Krsna will not meet. They will quickly run away. Radhika offers pranama to Baladeva Prabhu as a father. Nowadays, in Western civilization, even a woman can go naked even before the eyes of the elder brother of her husband. She can also play with him. In Rasa-sastra, however, if you want to love Krsna and Radhika, you will have to do everything properly. Your Prabhupada could not teach all these things to his unqualified disciples, and therefore he told me to teach them something so that gradually they would learn. If he had told them at that time, they could not have understood. You should try to know all these truths. I am not telling anything other than what Srila Swami Maharaja wanted.”

Response: Srila Prabhupada was well aware of the transcendental etiquette of not placing deities of Balarama or Nityananda on the same altar as Radha Krishna deities and he did instruct it to his disciples. Therefore it is most incorrect to say that Srila Prabhupada “could not teach all these things to his unqualified disciples.” It was Srila Prabhupada, in fact, who donated the single deity of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu to be placed on a Radha Krishna altar in a Mathura Gaudiya temple.
Everyone knows that the standard in all ISKCON’s major temples is separate altars for Radha Krishna, Guru Gauranga, Jagannatha, Subhadra and Baladeva, Nrsimhadeva and Sita-Rama deities.

Just like in our Vrindaban temple, you can have 3 Deity compartments. Facing the altar, Nrsimhadeva can be on the left, Guru-Gauranga in the center, and Jagannatha-Subhadra-Balarama on the right so that you can organize Rathayatra.” (Letter from Srila Prabhupada; June 18, 1976)

Sannyasi: “When performing arati of Caitanya Mahaprabhu, do not sing samsara davanala lidha loka to gurudeva. You should chant that before arati, and while arati is being performed, you should chant, Jaya jaya gauracandra or Jaya jaya Radha-Krsna jugala-milana. This arati should be sung.”

Response: Here the sannyasi gives two directives—the first concerning what song should not be sung during mangala arati and the second about which songs should be sung during aratis.

Directive #1: The sannyasi strongly objects to the fact that Srila Prabhupada taught his followers to chant the guruvastakam prayers each morning during mangala arati kirtana. Yet it behooves the sannyasi to comprehend that the selection was not an oversight by His Divine Grace, nor was it meant to be but a beginners’ exercise meant to be later replaced by some other song. His Divine Grace personally chanted the song when he led mangala arati and he emphasized the importance of singing these prayers daily in his classes:

Therefore we sing daily, yasya prasädäd bhagavat-prasädaù. By the mercy of guru, immediately we become, get the mercy of God. Yasya prasädäd bhagavat-prasädo yasyäprasädän na gatiù kuto 'pi. Yasyäprasädät. By... If guru is not satisfied, then na gatiù kuto 'pi. He has no gati. Gati means advancement. He has no advancement. Dhyäyaà stuvaàs tasya yaças tri-sandhyam. Therefore this Gurvañöaka, saàsära-dävänala, we have to sing. (Lecture by Srila Prabhupada; October 1, 1972)

So the saàsära dävänala-léòha-loka, these eight stanzas of Viçvanätha Cakravarté Öhäkura is very important. We sing daily. That's very good. (Lecture by Srila Prabhupada; November, 30, 1976)

The guruvastaka stanzas signify more than simply a song to be sung during arati—they express the priceless formula Srila Prabhupada used for spreading Krishna consciousness throughout the world. He wished that his own disciples and future generations of devotees should inherit this unique gift. When an empowered acarya has established a successful practice, why should it be carelessly abandoned?

Directive #2: The sannyasi advocates singing the gaura-arati song during sundara arati when the presiding deities in a temple are Lord Caitanya and Nityananda. When the presiding deities within a temple are Radha-Krishna, the sannyasi advocates singing a different song glorifying the pastimes of Radha and Krishna such as Jaya jaya Radha-Krsna jugala-milana.

ISKCON temples sing the guruvastaka prayers and the Hare Krishna mantra during mangala arati and they worship Lord Caitanya and Nityananda by singing the gaura arati song (jaya jaya gauracander…) and the maha mantra during sundara arati. Even if the presiding deities are Radha-Krishna, there is no rasa bhasa in singing the gaura arati song during sundara arati because Lord Caitanya is Himself the combined form of Radha and Krishna.

(kiba) jaya jaya goräcänder äratiko çobhä
jähnavé-taöa-vane jaga-mana-lobhä
jaga-jana-mana-lobhä

All glories, all glories to the beautiful ärati ceremony of Lord Caitanya. This Gaura-ärati is taking place in a grove on the banks of the Jähnavé [Ganges] and is attracting the minds of all living entities in the universe.

Rather than trying to replace Srila Prabhupada’s divine arrangements, it would be far more beneficial for the sannyasi to adopt them himself.

Sannyasi: “We should try to know Srila Swami Maharaja's real mood. In the morning, at the time of mangala-arati, we sing the kirtanas written by Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Dina Krsna dasa and other acaryas. My Guru Maharaja has written a very good mangala-arati song. Why should we not sing that?”

Response: Understandably the sannyasi carries particular preferences for how to worship Krishna, suggesting that the song written by his Guru Maharaja should be sung during mangala arati. However, Srila Prabhupada’s real mood has already been revealed in the guruvastaka song of Srila Visvanatha Cakravarty Thakura which he found most pleasing. These eight stanzas establish imperative principles of Vaisnavism regarding the spiritual master, Lord Gauranga’s sankirtana movement, elevated deity worship, bhagavata prasädam and the conjugal rasa between Radha and Krsna. I find it, therefore, unreasonable to assume that Srila Prabhupada would wish his disciples to change the standards which he personally inaugurated and bequeathed to ISKCON.

Sannyasi: “Your Prabhupada was so kind, and therefore he made some concessions. He did not want to disturb anyone. He considered, "Somehow they should chant, Hare Krsna, Hare Krsna." After that, however, he said, "You should not commit any offense while chanting." After that he told them, "You should chant with a sense of relationship with Krsna." After that there were so many other things he wanted to tell you. He has written it all in his books, but so many were not intelligent to accept all his teachings. They neglected his words. They never honored the mood of their gurudeva, and thus they very quickly fell down. If those who appear to be in good standing are committing offenses, it is understood that they are also falling. They must be fallen. Those who are sincere grhastha-bhaktas or renunciates will be okay. We should therefore try to know the real deep meaning of what Srila Swami Maharaja has written. If they had followed his orders, I think they would never have fallen down. We must go deeply into his teachings.”

Response: Correcting his former statement to the contrary, now the sannyasi admits that Srila Prabhupada “has written it all in his books.” The sannyasi also accurately notes that those disciples who fail to accept those teachings fall down. Nevertheless, going “deeply” into Srila Prabhupada’s teachings does not authorize a disciple to discard certain practices of his choosing and to replace them according to one’s own preferences.

Sannyasi: “For a beginner, the second class is too high. But, like a plantworm, he first puts forward one foot on the next leaf or twig, and when he is confident that his foot is situated on sound ground, he lifts the other foot. This is also the process of ascending to the roof. If you are not following, you will think, "I like to remain on the first step, because my gurudeva has told to be here. He has never told me to place my feet on the next step. How I can take my feet from here?"

There was a well made by any father -- for drinking water. His son was thinking, "My father has made a well." After some time the water in the well became contaminated, and there were so many worms there. Ganges was very near, and many good advisors, the son's older and wiser relatives, told him, "Don't take water from this well; otherwise you will fall sick. So many rogas, diseases, will come." The boy replied, "I cannot obey you. My father has made this well. Whether I live or die, I must take water from this well. I don't know Ganges. I will not go to Ganges. I will take this well water." What is this? It is nonsense. You should try to understand what your father did. He wanted to give pure water. If your water is not pure, you should try to make it pure and then drink it. Still better, you should go to Ganges.”

Response: The analogy above places Srila Prabhupada as the father, ISKCON devotees as the son, the sannyasi and his followers as the pure Ganges water, and the ISKCON organization as the contaminated well water. Designed to weaken faith in ISKCON, this derogatory and repugnant preaching mechanism illustrates precisely why His Divine Grace warned against peripheral involvement for his students.

Sannyasi: “If you are offering bhoga, then why chant namo maha-vadanyaya or namo brahmanya devaya? What is the need of those slokas? You should simply pray, "I am offering this bhoga to You. Please accept it. There are so many mantras and so many procedures. At first, for beginners, and for those who had not received second initiation, he said, "Oh, chant namo maha-vadanyaya, and He will accept your offering.” But now, in developing further, you must utter the proper mantras and slokas.

When you are making a bhoga offering, then you should pray srim klim radha- krsnabhyam or etat nivedyam klim gauraya svaha. This is the method adopted by Caitanya Mahaprabhu, and before that, by Narada, Vyasa, Sukadeva Gosvami, Isvara Puri, and Madhavendra Puri. This was also accepted by Svarupa Damodara, Raya Ramananda, Rupa Gosvami, and especially by Sanatana Gosvami in Hari Bhakti Vilas. He has given all these rules and regulations.”

Response: The sannyasi favors using standard mula mantras such as çréà kléà rädhä-kåñëäbhyäm namaù or klim gauraya svaha. Perhaps the sannyasi or those from whom he was misinformed of ISKCON’s bhoga offering procedures are unaware that ISKCON has for many years been using those mantras along with the bhoga-arpana mantra idaà naivedyam [Note: the word “idaà” and “etat” both mean “this”]. Long ago ISKCON’s GBC Deity Worship Research Group compiled the two volume book called Païcarätra-Pradépa taken from Srila Sanatana Goswami’s Hari-bhakti-viläsa. This book includes arcanä-paddhati (standard procedures for deity worship) and provides instructions for offering foodstuffs to the deities as follows:

Chant idaà naivedyam and the Deity müla-mantra, and offer bhoga to the Lord. [Note: the word “idaà” and “etat” both mean “this”]

The müla-mantra for Radha-Krsna worship are given as well: çréà kléà rädhä-kåñëäbhyäm namaù. The müla-mantra for Lord Caitanya worship is: kléà gauräya namaù.

The sannyasi objects to devotees offering bhoga to the deities chanting the prayers to Lord Caitanya and Lord Krsna beginning with the words; namo maha-vadanyaya or namo brahmanya devaya but Srila Prabhupada established a procedure for offering foodstuffs early on in the development of his movement:

Yes, you may say the prayer to the Spiritual Master 3 times, and also the Namo Brahmanya . . . prayer 3 times, when offering Prasadam. That is very nice to say the mantra 3 times. Also, you may, after offering to the Spiritual Master, offer to Lord Caitanya by saying the prayer, Namo Maha Badanyaya . . . 3 times, and then offer to Krishna thrice.” (Letter Mar. 22, 1968)

Since this procedure was used universally within ISKCON under Srila Prabhupada’s direction and was never rescinded, the Païcarätra-Pradépa also employs these mantras as part of bhoga offerings. The sannyasi asks, “What is the need of those slokas?” Technically the words idaà naivedyam do indicate the meal which is to be honored by Their Lordships yet Srila Prabhupada preferred to include three other prayers as well.

nama oà viñëu-pädäya kåñëa-preñöhäya bhütale
çrémate bhaktivedänta svämin iti nämine

namo mahä-vadänyäya
kåñëa-prema-pradäya te
kåñëäya kåñëa-caitanya-
nämne gaura-tviñe namaù

namo brahmaëya-deväya
go-brähmaëa-hitäya ca
jagad-dhitäya kåñëäya
govindäya namo namaù

Thus His Divine Grace gave these three mantras to be chanted along with idaà naivedyam and the mula mantras to teach absolute faith in the spiritual master, Lord Caitanya and Lord Krsna as essential requirements in spiritual life.

“The details of the main principles may sometime differ as set by different Acharyas (authorities) but the main principles as they are do not differ. In the details of such activities, there may appear some different formularies or formalities, but the main principles of devotional worship called by the name Archan are all the same everywhere.” (June 29, 1956 edition of Back to Godhead magazine)

In conclusion we can understand that it is the duty of an acarya to select the particular details of worship for his disciples to follow in deity worship abiding by the principles delineated in Çré Sanätana Gosvämé Hari-bhakti-viläsa. Srila Prabhupada perfectly accomplished this task leaving no necessity for unsatisfactory alterations.

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